Adam Fischer and Düsseldorfer Symphoniker - Mahler: Symphonie No. 9 (2020) [Hi-Res]

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Artist: Adam Fischer, Düsseldorfer Symphoniker
Title: Mahler: Symphonie No. 9
Year Of Release: 2020
Label: CAvi-music
Genre: Classical
Quality: flac lossless / flac 24bits - 48.0kHz +Booklet
Total Time: 01:19:05
Total Size: 327 / 733 mb
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Tracklist

01. Symphony No. 9 in D Minor: I. Andante
02. Symphony No. 9 in D Minor: II. Im Tempo eines gemächlichen Ländlers
03. Symphony No. 9 in D Minor: III. Rondo-Burleske. Allegro assai, sehr trotzig
04. Symphony No. 9 in D Minor: IV. Adagio. Sehr langsam und noch zurückhaltend

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olga1001
08:57
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How fresh !
But what a frail 4th movement ?!
Ádám says this is a symphony not about death but about dying himself !?
In 1907 he was diagnosed with heart disease.
Mahler composed what popped into dying his mind ?
This symphony has many quotes from his works.
1st movement is anxious himself, 2nd childhood, 3rd love with Alma, 4th asking for help to her who was far away in Wien according to Ádám ?
There are Nos. 2, 6 & 10 remaining.
I think most highly of him in new Mahler since 2000 rather than Markus Stenz and Jonathan Nott !
Thanks a lot

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WalterBL
20:01
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olga1001,

Could you please indicate a source of original words by Adam Fischer you're referring to in the following quote <<This symphony has many quotes from his works.
1st movement is anxious himself, 2nd childhood, 3rd love with Alma, 4th asking for help to her who was far away in Wien according to Ádám >>?

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olga1001
22:58
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Other musicologists analysed No. 9 and found similar motifs from his own works (Symphonies Nos. 1, 3, 4 & 5...), Beethoven (Piano Sonata No. 26) and Wagner (Parsifal and Tristan und Isolde).
And Mahler wrote a call to Alma on score.
Most important is that 3rd movement slow part, 4th movement and Kindertotenlieder No. 4 "im Sonnenschein! Der Tag ist schön auf jenen Höhn!" (4th movement coda) (and Tristan) are related deeply by same motif.
It's me that associated Ádám's liner notes with what is said about this symphony so I added question mark :p
Thanks

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platico
23:52
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gracias....

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WalterBL
07:52
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<<And Mahler wrote a call to Alma on score.>>

If you meant a dedication to Alma it concerns the 8th and allegedly it was on a handwritten variant of the 10th. That's it as far as I know.

I have read the booklet, particularly the part of it written by Adam Fischer, and couldn't find any reference to Alma.

As to your "titles" I'd agree with nos. 1 & 2. Andante comodo is indeed about anxiety caused most likely by his disease which appeared to be der Krank zum Todd. The 2nd one ("Im Tempo eines gemachlichen Landlers") is similar to the corresponding ones in the 1st and even more in the 4th symphonies based on laendlers which are associated with his Moravian childhood. However I'd disagree with you in regard of the 3d and 4th movement. The Rondo-Burleske (except for the middle part) is a short glance from self reflection (dominating over the whole symphony) into a crazy world, full of irony and sarcasm. As to the middle episode which motif is similar to Kindertotenlieder No. 4 it is a typical Mahlerian flash from an ugly world to a paradise lost, a past which is gone for good, the paradise of lost childhood (his or his children like in Kindertotenlieder), so a direct link to Alma is rather vague. Whatsoever the middle episode can not title the whole movement being just a contrast to crazy Burleske. Indeed it appears again in coda of the last movement but why the call to Alma for help? In my mind call for help is rather passionate, a need to have the helper close to be able to touch and being touched. There seems to be nothing like that. Mahler does realize his helplessness while dying and all the symphony about dying while the Finale, the greatest ever music (not only by Mahler) is about resignation, detaching from mundane reality which turns to exist in his consciousness just as a memory of love and happiness. And in dying his love is getting impersonal letting him accept the world as a whole as well as his death.
Sorry if my disagreement disappointed you. It wasn't my goal. Just like you I wanted to express my feelings caused by this greatest music I have been listening to for 5 decades ))

Now I have yet to listen to the recording and to thank fantastic for providing us with the possibility to do this!

PS. Sorry for personal topic. I haven't got your response to my recent personal messages. Have you seen them?

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olga1001
09:16
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@WalterBL
Thank you for feedback ^.^
Mahler wrote a call not only on No. 10 but also on No. 9 score which is well known, I think because even on Wikipedia in Russian and French it's referred.
In my small score I cannot find it but from my memory Donald Mitchell and Henry-Louis de la Grange wrote it but not for sure because it's 20 years ago :p
3rd movement main part is said a struggle against critics (my brothers in Apollo) while slow part is a peace at home, love.
Before Mahler composed No. 9, he had poor health (Bernstein found unstable heartbeat and Ádám heart attack at 1st movement).
His asking for help to her is weak from a sick or kid, not necessarily passionate like Tristan.
Ádám said it's from "dying" Mahler.
In mind of dying person on bed, various things of his life appear and disappear and I applied them to No. 9 from Ádám's suggestion.
An interpretation of 4th movement like Ádám is 1st for me and honestly I'm confused, I don't think it's right.
Also about 2nd & 3rd movements, I wonder it recurred in mind of a sick but performance is brilliant.
While composing No. 9 in Toblach, his health got better, already not a dying sick and his cause of death is a sudden infection.
Thanks

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